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#16 RE: Vitaly Petrov by Denorth 09.12.2011 10:46

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well, I am not happy that Petrov is apparently leaving F1, but:

Lotus Renault made a bet on cash with some talent in this year: Petrov and Senna.

Now we are going to see a situation of making bet on talent: Kimi and Grosjean. They might have better results.

Wolfie - as I see from numerous interviews he had 'conditional' contract for next year. possibly based on performance, possibly on something else. Why was his manager 'negotiating some conditions' otherwise?

#17 RE: Vitaly Petrov by Denorth 09.12.2011 10:56

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btw - Senna is out of Lotus GP completely. He doesn't have even test-driver contract anymore

#18 RE: Vitaly Petrov by Kurski 09.12.2011 11:38

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If Petrov can Marussia, so his biggest supporters may be the russian oil company Lukoil...

#19 RE: Vitaly Petrov by Kurski 09.12.2011 12:39

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Zitat von Wolfie
But hasn't Marussia already confirmed their drivers?

Yes, but can buy Lukoil together with Petrov, Timo Glock out of the contract.

#20 RE: Vitaly Petrov by Denorth 09.12.2011 12:56

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yep, her quote were published that cooperation between Lotus and Vitaly hasn't stopped but will be in other form (with no mention what kind of form).

she also said that he might be in other team and she can't tell about sponsors, since they can finalise anything when they move closer to actual agreements. I think we can read it as - we don't have sponsors, only some promises and will be dealing with them when we have another promise from the F1 team and will try to make it all together. not really a bright side of the situation

#21 RE: Vitaly Petrov by Denorth 09.12.2011 12:59

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one more thing - her words can be a smokescreen for 'domestic market', not real thing

#22 RE: Vitaly Petrov by Ragingjamaican 09.12.2011 18:55

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I think Grosjean is promising. To judge him in his '09 season with 5 races or so is unfair, first of all there was no testing when he joined, second of all he was Alonso's team mate, third of all the team was in disarry, and fourth of all the whole team was concentrating on Alonso.

Not nice for the lad, he was promising in GP2 in his first half season, he was great in the GT car series he was in, and has won GP2 in this year.

I have heard he's arrogant and makes stupid comments, but it doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a chance, he is 25 years old, that's not that young in F1 anymore.

As for Petrov, it's a shame he's out, but you can say he only has himself to blame, only scoring 3 more points than Heidfeld with 8 more races.

The car wasn't that bad, it was capable of scoring points, fair enough he was taking out in Monza, but he made mistakes in Korea and India (team were also to blame there) when points where on.

I like the guy, he's exciting, but you can't say he was great in the second half of the season.

#23 RE: Vitaly Petrov by Jinx 10.12.2011 03:35

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I think team managers should evaluate a driver on the whole year overall, not just u're as good as your last race... this is very myopic bcos each race has different outcomes... as we can see last year's fight, Vettel could perform better in the second half bcos of many issues, and many were not his fault. Sometimes the starting point has better results bcos the car was better at the start and then in-season development by competitors puts earlier better teams to the test and who knows, as Lotus admitted, the car went backwards....so it should not fall on the shoulders of the drivers ... I am already fearing what will happen to kimi with this new development... plus Grosjean is french, supported by Lopez & Boullier... they may have th plan to just kick kimi out after a while, saves them money and they got the publicity for it etc. Sorry, this is the pessimist in me... I have no faith in these people to be fair and ethical ... good luck to Kimi <img src=s" title="reds" />

#24 RE: Vitaly Petrov by Kurski 10.12.2011 18:13

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Zitat von Wolfie
I don't know Kurski, these days anything is possible in F1

Marussian engineering department director, Nikolai Fomenko hinting that the team has next week to tell Vitaly Petrov.

#25 RE: Vitaly Petrov by Ragingjamaican 10.12.2011 18:34

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Zitat von Jinx
I think team managers should evaluate a driver on the whole year overall, not just u're as good as your last race... this is very myopic bcos each race has different outcomes... as we can see last year's fight, Vettel could perform better in the second half bcos of many issues, and many were not his fault. Sometimes the starting point has better results bcos the car was better at the start and then in-season development by competitors puts earlier better teams to the test and who knows, as Lotus admitted, the car went backwards....so it should not fall on the shoulders of the drivers ... I am already fearing what will happen to kimi with this new development... plus Grosjean is french, supported by Lopez & Boullier... they may have th plan to just kick kimi out after a while, saves them money and they got the publicity for it etc. Sorry, this is the pessimist in me... I have no faith in these people to be fair and ethical ... good luck to Kimi



The car might have went backwards, but it was capable of scoring points in every race apart from Singapore, both drivers where running well at times but got into problems by themselves. Petrov only scored 5 points from Belgium onwards, and in most races, the car was capable of getting around 8th-10th, and quite high in Monza (but he got taken out).

Even if you evaluate the full season, Petrov does come across as a bit 'meh' after Melbourne.

#26 RE: Vitaly Petrov by Denorth 21.12.2011 14:36

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Ruomours in Russian internet:

Petrov will be competing with Kubica for a place in Ferrari. Apparently Phillips Morris and Santander are interested to have East European driver there and it can be either of them. If it happens he would be test driver only

anything goes when fans are waiting for news.

#27 RE: Vitaly Petrov by Olga 21.12.2011 14:43

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my Pet at Farrari? <img src=" title="oh" />

is it supposed to be good for him? <img src=" title="nails" />

#28 RE: Vitaly Petrov by claudie 21.12.2011 14:55

Well Olgi it´s better than nothing me thinks <img src=" title="dunno" />

#29 RE: Vitaly Petrov by Jinx 21.12.2011 15:40

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I find this hard to believe lest we forget whom Pet blocked during the whole Abu Dhabi 2010??? <img src=" title="roll" />

#30 RE: Vitaly Petrov by YiNing 21.12.2011 16:19

Martin Brundle (and a few others) seems to believe Petrov will go to Caherham...

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MBrundleF1 Martin Brundle
Suspect Vitaly Petrov may re emerge at Caterham F1 (formerly Team Lotus) in 2012. Music has stopped, there'll be a mad scramble for seats



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f1enigma Dimitris PAPADOPOULO
Is this the guy with more $$$ that Ricciardo?"@MBrundleF1: Suspect Vitaly Petrov may re emerge at Caterham F1 (formerly Team Lotus) in 2012"



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TheF1Tweeter Jordan Hamilton
#F1 Interesting to see that Martin Brundle believes Petrov may well join Caterham for 2012, Heikki and Vitaly, good lineup?

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