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#181 RE: Scuderia Ferrari by Denorth 01.02.2013 13:47


BBC on Ferrari

Gary Anderson BBC F1 technical analyst

"There are some very positive aspects of the new Ferrari - and some that I'm not quite as excited about.

"The rear-end treatment, from the back of the engine, looks like a positive step forward.

"I was very critical of their car in that area last year - it was messy, with radiator outlets disrupting the airflow.

"It's much cleaner this year, with a much more aggressive treatment of the 'coke-bottle' area where the bodywork sweeps in between the rear wheels, an area they neglected in 2012. And it looks as if they have a very small gearbox, because the bodywork at the back is very low.

"That's all good for keeping the airflow as effective as possible in a crucial area and it looks like a big step forward.

"Forward of that, I'm less sure. The coke-bottle starts early, which is a very aggressive pursuit of downforce, but can lead to problems. I might have stayed clear of that and I think Ferrari might be the only team doing that.

"I looked at the new McLaren and saw a lot of positive points. The list of obvious gains is smaller on the Ferrari but we'll have to see how it goes on the track."

#182 RE: Scuderia Ferrari by Appletree 01.02.2013 15:55


I have to say about new Ferrari, I dont like its front section. The rear looks fine, but the nose looks very "heavy" from the side view and the "feeling " I got by looking at it, was "its fast but not fast enough"..never know. Macca doesnt give me any feeling at all, its neutral..but they have had a steady performance level . Lotus gave me impression of beeing "hidden" somehow, I believe it will see some changes before the first race, but I believe they will be very near the top teams.

#183 RE: Scuderia Ferrari by Olga 01.02.2013 17:58


i hope this changes in some way, because this is a <img src=" title="nono" /> sight... <img src=" title="eek" />

#184 RE: Scuderia Ferrari by YiNing 01.02.2013 18:02

Olga what have you done <img src=" title="mad" />

I've been trying whole day not to look at that shark mouth <img src=h" title="hih" />

#185 RE: Scuderia Ferrari by Olga 01.02.2013 18:04


<img src=tme" title="notme" /> well, i was just really impressed by this!

#186 RE: Scuderia Ferrari by Sonny 01.02.2013 18:18

She is showing her Greek pride to the head of the aerodynamics team! :)

They definitely modified the rear and a quick glanc makes me think they will go the coanda exhaust route. Rear end looks much improved to me. Much tighter (a la red bull style).

#187 RE: Scuderia Ferrari by Olga 01.02.2013 18:26


Sonny <img src=" title="spank" /> stop teasing me! <img src=" title="angry" />

you know i like Tombazis, but this nose is <img src=" title="eek" />

#188 RE: Scuderia Ferrari by YiNing 01.02.2013 18:30

#189 RE: Scuderia Ferrari by miezicat 01.02.2013 18:44


<img src=" title="lol" /> <img src=" title="eek" />

#190 RE: Scuderia Ferrari by an1th 01.02.2013 19:37

isnt it just the angle? the tip of the nose is not supposed to be high.

i come to this thread and think, before i write something, i got to check ferrari's rear end. Goes elsewhere and then totally forget what i was upto

Anyways I think they wont be 'lost' like last year. This is a solid car

#191 RE: Scuderia Ferrari by Sonny 02.02.2013 17:08

I don't think the front of the car looks THAT bad!

I think Apple summed it up best: the front wing just looks "heavy." But the car will certainly undergo major changes between launch and Melbourne.

The car overall looks much more aerodynamic. From the front-on view: you can see quite clearly where Tombazis and his design crew are trying to direct the air. The sidepods look 'mean.' I love that look! And it's quite clear they are trying to get air underneath and around the sidepods likely for the coanda effect.

Olga: aren't you proud of your fellow Greek? <img src=" title="lol" />

#192 RE: Scuderia Ferrari by Olga 02.02.2013 17:18


yes, i'm proud of him! he comes from a great family, has had some great education and hes such a soft spoken man. he very often speaks to greek tv, hes very polite and nice. actually i dont know how he survives there... <img src=" title="dunno" />

#193 RE: Scuderia Ferrari by Spinster 02.02.2013 18:03


soft spot for him olgake? <img src=" title="ha" />

#194 RE: Scuderia Ferrari by Olga 06.02.2013 01:01


Tombazis? <img src=" title="hmm" /> who's Tombazis? <img src=" title="dunno" />

i only know James Allison <img src=" title="ii" />

:joking! <img src=" title="ha" />

#195 RE: Scuderia Ferrari by Olga 07.03.2013 08:33



Tombazis: “No predictions before Melbourne”

Maranello, 6 March – Engineers have always based their impressions and evaluations on data alone and that’s something that Scuderia Ferrari’s Chief Designer, Nick Tombazis is well aware of. And when it comes to data, the Prancing Horse team acquired a lot of it over the twelve days of testing and its analysis leaves no room for illusion or false expectation.

“Compared to a year ago, the situation is very clear,” commented Tombazis. “It’s not hard to make a comparison, because back then we were in a really difficult situation, so making a better start this year was pretty much a given. We know that for various reasons, our development over the latter part of last season stalled and, because our rivals continued their development to a certain extent, the gap between us grew, especially after the summer break. A gap which we had closed down to three tenths, thus became around eight in Brazil. This year, we have a well defined development plan and we are reasonably sure that the new components tested on track have produced positive results. The Melbourne package worked as we had hoped, with no particular unexpected problems, but it’s still difficult to say where we are compared to our competitors, so it’s better not to speculate. It’s hardly surprising, but I think that apart from ourselves, the most competitive would appear to be Red Bull, McLaren, Lotus and Mercedes, even if how the hierarchy stands between us is still uncertain. We hope to be able to fight at the front, but no one can be excluded: there are 19 races in the championship with half of them coming after the summer and, as we saw last year, even if a team does not start the season being on the pace, it can fight back and win. Everyone goes through a cycle and stages and therefore it will be a case of constant development throughout the year.”

Tombazis reckons the two key areas will be tyre useage and the development of the exhaust system. “With the exhaust exits we can reckon on updates during the season and while the differences might not be visible, they could offer a significant margin for improvement. Of course, we won’t be the only ones working on this area, the others will too. Bit by bit, as the regulations stay the same for longer, the room for invention decreases, but with the exhausts there is still much that can be done. Furthermore, as great improvements in simulation tools come along, this produces better correlation of data and of the methodology of the various configurations that are tested. This means that testing new parts and comparing developments over a race weekend will become more complicated, whereas during testing, this can be done more calmly and extensively. We need to find a way to do this without compromising other tasks such as set-up work and analysing the behaviour of the tyres. And when it comes to the tyres, keeping an eye on degradation will be very important, as being quick over a single lap will not be enough.”

Tombazis ended his analysis of the challenges that lie ahead with a word on the organization of his department. “We have a very competent group of people and a clear technical structure with Simone Resta concentrating on the 2013 car, while Fabio Montecchi oversees the 2014 project and we should also not forget that work on updating our wind tunnel should be finished by the end of the year. Finally, for 2014 we can also count on the invaluable support of Rory Byrne, who has so much experience that it would be foolish not to involve him. Rory has never left the company, even if he no longer works full time, so he can spend more time with his family, but he also has a key role in the development of the new Ferrari supercar LaFerrari. He has always been an important reference point for me, as he was my first boss when I was at Benetton and I owe him a great deal. ... ourne.aspx

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