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#1 RE: F1-news and -translations in 2013 by Denorth 02.01.2013 10:52

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apparently Italian Autosprint rated drivers recently.

Senna is on forth position only, Alonso not in top 10, Vettel on 10th place.

#2 RE: F1-news and -translations in 2013 by Olga 02.01.2013 22:03

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and Kimi?? <img src=" title="dunno" />

#3 RE: F1-news and -translations in 2013 by YiNing 02.01.2013 22:44

Kimi didn't make the top 10...

http://www.auto.it/autosprint/formula_1 ... motorsport
Autosprint, 28th December 2012

Top ten F1 drivers ever

1. Juan Manuel Fangio
2. Michael Schumacher
3. Jackie Stewart
4. Ayrton Senna
5. Jim Clark
6. Alain Prost
7. Stirling Moss
8. Alberto Ascari
9. Niki Lauda
10. Sebastian Vettel

#4 RE: F1-news and -translations in 2013 by miezicat 05.01.2013 22:39

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http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/01/05/t ... -protests/

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New team radio reveals Vettel’s penalty protests

The official Formula One 2012 season review DVD includes some not previously broadcast team radio material which reveals more about two controversial moments of last season involving Sebastian Vettel.

He received a penalty during the Spanish Grand Prix after Jenson Button pointed out he’d deployed DRS on the main straight despite yellow flags being waved. “Vettel is using DRS, Vettel is using DRS. In a yellow flag zone” reported Button on the radio.

After being handed his penalty an angry Vettel defended his driving on the radio channel, which race director Charlie Whiting and the stewards can listen to.

Vettel said: “I wasn’t going too fast. I could see everything then I took KERS and I didn’t feel it.

“What else did you want me to see? I was awake, I told you yellow flag, that I could see it down the straight. It’s not my problem if I have DRS, I cannot lift up. We’re talking four tenths.”

His race engineer Guillaume Rocqueline urged him to accept the penalty, saying: “Understood. The penalty will not be changed. Deep breath, stay focused. I don’t want any arm-waving or anything, OK?”

Vettel also received a penalty during the Italian Grand Prix. On that occasion he addressed Whiting directly on the radio to deny he forced Fernando Alonso wide at the Curva Grande.

Alonso had already said: “OK I think that’s enough, no? That’s enough… I’m at 320 kilometres an hour. OK?”

In his defence, Vettel said: “To race director. All of a sudden he was on the grass. I didn’t need to push him on the grass, I left enough room.”

After his penalty was handed down, Vettel added: “I told you I didn’t push him on the grass. There was enough room.”

The official Formula One 2012 video goes on sale on Monday.


also on the DVD

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@f1zone
Another funny Kimi radio moment in Belgium when he says "I know what I'm doing so just be quiet" #f1

<img src=h" title="hih" /> poor Simon

#5 RE: F1-news and -translations in 2013 by YiNing 06.01.2013 01:30

Thank you Verena <img src=" title="ty" />

I'll miss Simon, I hope he didn't leave because of Kimi... <img src=" title="oi" />

#6 RE: F1-news and -translations in 2013 by Ragingjamaican 06.01.2013 01:58

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Vettel needs to chill out with his hissy fits.

#7 RE: F1-news and -translations in 2013 by Sonny 06.01.2013 06:13

Why? He really only shows that type of emotion behind the wheel.

#8 RE: F1-news and -translations in 2013 by Suomileijona 06.01.2013 08:35

Miezi thank you very much! <img src=" title="ty" /> <img src=" title="hug" />


Texas Circuit of the Americas Cota Tower

360 Photo Pro -panorama from 70 m hight <img src=t" title="hat" /> <img src=" title="bliss" />

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#9 RE: F1-news and -translations in 2013 by Olga 06.01.2013 10:28

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Kulta wrote a nice article and Nicole translated it.... <img src=" title="ty" />

nice analysis, dont you think? <img src=h" title="hih" />

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Räikkönen still beats Alonso in Ferrari’s winning percentages
The Racing Nerd January 6, 2013

Translated by Nicole

F1 | Turun Sanomat 11:35

Leading figures in F1 from the 2000-century, Kimi Räikkönen and Fernando Alonso, both have raced for three seasons in Ferrari. Although comparison between different seasons is more or less twisted, it seems justified when it comes to these two.

The biggest difference in the comparison is of course, that during Räikkönen’s era Maranello had a different driver-strategy than before or after.

Räikkönen had an equal status with his teammate in the team, while Michael Schumacher before him and Alonso after him have both had an undisputable nr. 1 status.

This naturally has an affect on the statistics also.

Ferrari cleared the way for Alonso one year ahead, when Luca di Montezemolo and Santander wanted him in particular to replace Räikkönen. Alonso got the nr. 1 status he wanted only by displacing Räikkönen.

Both won straight away their first race in Maranello’s crew, so in that sense Räikkönen’s and Alonso’s careers are similar: Räikkönen in Australia and Alonso in Bahrain.

Others who have won straight away during their debut season with Ferrari are Juan Manuel Fangio, Giancarlo Baghetti, Mario Andretti and Nigel Mansell.

Alonso is always on the podiums

Räikkönen drove 52 GP-races in Ferrari, since the amount of the races were less during that time. Hence Alonso has six races more.

Both have won nine times. Räikkönen’s winning percentage is 17,3 whereas Alonso’s is 15,5.

Alonso has been seven times more often on the podium. Räikkönen’s trophy-percentage in Ferrari-races is 50, whereas Alonso’s is 56,9.

Alonso has scored significantly more points. Since they had different systems, both have to be used in comparison. With the old system Alonso is ahead 324-233 and with the new system 787-585. When measured with average Alonso is ahead 5,59 – 4,48 (old system) and 13,57 – 11,25 (new system).

Although Räikkönen’s qualification-speed compared to Felipe Massa’s was critisized especially during the two last seasons, Kimi still has twice as more poles and front row positions than Alonso has had during three seasons.

Räikkönen’s saldo in qualification-competition against Massa was on the minus. In 2007 Massa was ahead 9-8, in 2008 the situation was 12-6 and during the most difficult season in 2009 Räikkönen was faster with 6-4.

Alonso has clearly beaten Massa: In 2010 it was 15-3, in 2011 it was 15-4 and now it was 17-3.

Fastest lap still unmade

Ferrari has won the fastest lap in at least one race ever since year 1994. Last season that row was cut, since Alonso and Massa didn’t have even one fastest laptime. The same happened in season 1994.

Räikkönen made two fastest laptimes in Lotus also and he is clearly ahead of Alonso in that statistics also. The 3rd of all times has 37 fastest laptimes. 16 of them in Ferrari, while Alonso has 6 laptimes after his three seasons.

Räikkönen also raced more in the lead with Ferrari than Alonso did during the three last seasons.

Räikkönen leads by 194 kilometers more than Alonso, who was in the lead last July in Germany GP.

Sixth year without a champtionship

Räikkönen is still Ferrari’s latests world champion. It has now been six years. If Alonso will make it the next season, then he is capable of the same as Schumacher, for whom it took four seasons to become champion with Ferrari.

During Räikkönen’s time they got all and all three championships, out of which the last one was in WCC in 2008. di Montezemolo could brag even after 2008 about how many championships Maranello had clinched during the last ten years.

Nowadays those talks have silenced, although Ferrari is still the most successful team from 2003-2012, beating even Red Bull with the figure 7-6.

Turun Sanomat

HEIKKI KULTA

#10 RE: F1-news and -translations in 2013 by miezicat 06.01.2013 12:22

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<img src=" title="ty" /> yes, very nice analysis :)

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Why? He really only shows that type of emotion behind the wheel.


nah, if he is pissed he shows that out of the car too, in interviews.. it's understandable but would be better if he calms down a bit more in these situations.
but loved Rocky's answer "I don’t want any arm-waving or anything, OK?" <img src=" title="ha" />

#11 RE: F1-news and -translations in 2013 by Olga 06.01.2013 14:07

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Zitat von Suomileijona
Miezi thank you very much! <img src=" title="hug" />


Texas Circuit of the Americas Cota Tower

360 Photo Pro -panorama from 70 m hight

http://360photopro.com/circuit-of-the-a ... ower-view/



thanks SL! that truck and GP was realy <img src=" title="dreamy" /> for me! cant wait to get back there! <img src=" title="ii" />

#12 RE: F1-news and -translations in 2013 by Suomileijona 06.01.2013 17:09

Olga thank you very much for the article! <img src=" title="hug" /> VERY GOOD READ! <img src=t" title="hat" /> <img src=" title="bliss" /> Many thanks to Nicole! <img src=" title="ty" /> <img src=" title="hug" />

#13 RE: F1-news and -translations in 2013 by Ragingjamaican 07.01.2013 03:03

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Zitat von miezicat
yes, very nice analysis :)

Zitat von Sonny
Why? He really only shows that type of emotion behind the wheel.


nah, if he is pissed he shows that out of the car too, in interviews.. it's understandable but would be better if he calms down a bit more in these situations.
but loved Rocky's answer "I don’t want any arm-waving or anything, OK?"




The Miezi has a way with words, so I'm gonna let her say my points from now on <img src=h" title="hih" />

As for comparing Alonso and Raikkonen's times at Ferrari, not really sure it's worth comparing. Different circumstances, different competition.

Raikkonen's had a better chance of achieving wins, races, poles, and fastest laps due to his car being the joint number one car for 2 seasons with only on maxmimum 3 opponents who could challenge him then. The only season that you can make a slight comparison is 2009 and 2011 when they both achieved one win in a car that wasn't worthy of winning, - you may argue that Alonso won due to one race where regulations changed, but he was amazing throughout that season - also I feel Alonso has had stiffer regular competition from the likes of Vettel, Webber, Hamilton and Button, compared to Raikkonen's time at Ferrari, with Hamilton, Massa and Alonso for one season, despite Alonso being the Number 1.

Just wait until <img src=" title="moose" /> enter Ferrari, he'll smash both of their statistics. <img src=" title="giggle" />

#14 RE: F1-news and -translations in 2013 by Denorth 07.01.2013 13:00

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some interesting answers by Gerard Lopez :)


http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/01/l ... -for-2013/

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Lopez is proud of the performance Raikkonen put in last year, particularly as many people told him that the Finn would be unmotivated,



BUT... it seems that the actual interview in Gazzetta dello Sport is a bit more interesting: something like - many came and said they always had told that Kimi was motivated and those were the same people who had claimed opposite before.
I read the Russian translation, but would be interesting to know if it was actually correct

#15 RE: F1-news and -translations in 2013 by Suomileijona 07.01.2013 14:00

Denorth thank you very much for the article! <img src=" title="ty" /> <img src=" title="hug" /> <img src=t" title="hat" />

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