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Zitat von Sonny
it sounds like disgruntled teams venting their frustration that engineering ingenuity can occur for half the price.
+1! 
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Zitat von claudie
Am I the only one who thinks that this comment by Button is disrespectful and useless?Zitat
I think Kimi understood that (the way the tyres work) immediately and drove in a different manner. He did very well more clever than I thought he was.
As usual I think that all the hype will come and haunt Kimi (not his fault as he says that it´s only friday which doesnt mean a shit) and RoGro will beat him during the qualifying as he will find the right set-up!
Yeah that is somewhat disrespectful.
We are in a strange situation right now, Kimi won the first race unexpectedly. That builds up a bit of hype, but many people still thought that other teams like Red Bulll and Ferrari might do better. Everything does tend to happen very fast in these first races, there isn't time to change much or to think about much. Now we were at the sessions for the next race and Kimi is again doing well after everyone at first expected Red Bull and Ferrari to do better. So the hype builds up more, and it is not even necessarily Kimi fans who are building up the hype. People only need to see a hint of a pattern sometimes and they start getting ahead of themselves.
We as fans always hope for this situation, but in truth there has only been one race many things could still not work out. Lotus still hasn't done any long runs, and Malaysia is always a tricky place with all of the rain. You can so easily be a lap to early or a lap to late on wrong tyres in the rain. It is very unpredictable. As odds and averages goes Kimi will at some point be out done by Grosjean, it is inevitable. When it happens the usually complaints or critique will come out against Kimi, but it is always the bigger picture that really matters, Kimi just has to do well on a consistent basis, you cant always come out on top or win everything.
Zitat von Sonny
Raikkonen had the least test mileage of any driver with a serious chance to claim the 2013 title. Pirelli introduced these tyres late in 2012. The same tyres every team had the opportunity to test in Brazil last year. If someone wants to discover that the Lotus "test-car" looks eerily similar to the 2013-spec challenger and has put in 5,000 - 10,000 kilometres for tyre development, I'd be glad to take a different stance on this argument. Until then, it sounds like disgruntled teams venting their frustration that engineering ingenuity can occur for half the price.
Some people just cant take it when the so called "normal" running order is disrupted. Red Bull also gets a lot of stick, but people are used to Red Bull at the top by now. People have been hoping for someone to out perform Red Bull for a long time now, but the hope has always been that Ferarri or Mclaren will come out on top. So Lotus are stealing their thunder at moment. It is pretty amusing.
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Sonny wrote:Raikkonen had the least test mileage of any driver with a serious chance to claim the 2013 title. Pirelli introduced these tyres late in 2012. The same tyres every team had the opportunity to test in Brazil last year. If someone wants to discover that the Lotus "test-car" looks eerily similar to the 2013-spec challenger and has put in 5,000 - 10,000 kilometres for tyre development, I'd be glad to take a different stance on this argument. Until then, it sounds like disgruntled teams venting their frustration that engineering ingenuity can occur for half the price.
oh yes, this is where other teams may be pulling their hair... because in reality, this is the finest art!
so well said Sonny! 
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Am I the only one who thinks that this comment by Button is disrespectful and useless?Zitat
I think Kimi understood that (the way the tyres work) immediately and drove in a different manner. He did very well more clever than I thought he was.
As usual I think that all the hype will come and haunt Kimi (not his fault as he says that it´s only friday which doesnt mean a shit) and RoGro will beat him during the qualifying as he will find the right set-up!
Yeah that is somewhat disrespectful.
We are in a strange situation right now, Kimi won the first race unexpectedly. That builds up a bit of hype, but many people still thought that other teams like Red Bulll and Ferrari might do better. Everything does tend to happen very fast in these first races, there isn't time to change much or to think about much. Now we were at the sessions for the next race and Kimi is again doing well after everyone at first expected Red Bull and Ferrari to do better. So the hype builds up more, and it is not even necessarily Kimi fans who are building up the hype. People only need to see a hint of a pattern sometimes and they start getting ahead of themselves.
We as fans always hope for this situation, but in truth there has only been one race many things could still not work out. Lotus still hasn't done any long runs, and Malaysia is always a tricky place with all of the rain. You can so easily be a lap to early or a lap to late on wrong tyres in the rain. It is very unpredictable. As odds and averages goes Kimi will at some point be out done by Grosjean, it is inevitable. When it happens the usually complaints or critique will come out against Kimi, but it is always the bigger picture that really matters, Kimi just has to do well on a consistent basis, you cant always come out on top or win everything.
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the least i can say is that Button's comment was goofy. i mean trying to see it from the most positive side possible.... so that i dont spoil my mood.... 
I knew Lotus would screwed over by the rain in some way, two weekends already interrupted by rain. I just want to see the true pace of the car in qualifying. If it rains again tomorrow (which is highly likely) then Lotus will struggle to make the points.
there's less chance of rain tomorrow...
If it stays dry and kimi clean of car trouble he will end up at least on podium, but I think he'll win it
Kimi is being investigated 
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Adam Cooper ‏@adamcooperf1 35s
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Drop of three places for Kimi Raikkonen for impeding @nico_rosberg
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What did he do? I thought he tried to overtake him 
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I don't remember seeing anything, was it on camera? 
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I’d Rather be High - Qualifying Saturday 23 March
Kimi Räikkönen placed seventh and Romain Grosjean eleventh in a rain affected qualifying session for tomorrow’s Malaysian Grand Prix at Sepang. The rain scuppered Romain’s Q2 lap on new tyres; forcing him to abort his final attempt and subsequently miss out on a top ten spot. Kimi progressed to the Q3 session using intermediate tyres on the damp and difficult track.
Kimi Räikkönen, E21-03 – Q: P7, 1:52.970. FP3: P5, 1:36.806.
“We weren’t quick enough on the intermediates so I don’t think we could have found much more time in the wet today. For sure I wanted more but it is what it is and I hope we’ll do better on Sunday. It’s obviously disappointing to lose three places on the grid, but we’ll have to see what happens in the race. I have no idea what the weather will do, but it will be the same for everyone.”
Romain Grosjean, E21-01 – Q: P11, 1:37.636. FP3: P14, 1:37.690.
“The car felt better today for sure and we were looking good after free practice earlier this afternoon. We should have easily had both cars in the top ten, but unfortunately the skies opened at just the wrong time for me. My first run in Q2 was on scrubbed tyres and then as soon as we came in to fit the new ones it started raining, so for now they stay new. It’s a shame but there’s a long race ahead of us tomorrow and we now have extra sets of fresh dry tyres in our pocket so hopefully we can use them well.”
James Allison, Technical Director: “It’s likely to be a stern test of driver and team.”
What do we say about today?
It was a disappointing qualifying session for us. Rather like in Melbourne, we haven’t placed our cars in the sort of positions our dry pace merits. Like last time, rain disturbed qualifying and we’re not as effective in the wet as we are in the dry. That was qualifying; the race is tomorrow and we have potential for both drivers to put in strong performances.
What weather considerations are there for tomorrow?
Unfortunately, it looks like the weather could be much like today, with further wet conditions. This sort of variable weather is what we frequently see in Malaysia and it’s likely to be a stern test of driver and team, in that it’s very difficult to make the correct strategy choice as the conditions develop. We haven’t shone yet in the wet, but the higher fuel loads we will use tomorrow may make it easier for us to build heat in the intermediate tyre.
How are we placed if it stays dry?
We are looking good on dry pace, especially on heavy fuel loads, so if someone could devise and deploy an effective anti-rain dance we’d be well-placed for a good result. A common Malaysia scenario is a dry track followed by extreme rain, followed by a safety car and it’s in these conditions that bold decisions can bring big rewards. The trick is making the correct bold decision.
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