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#61 RE: F1 Spain GP 2014 by WHATEVER 12.05.2014 15:02

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#62 RE: F1 Spain GP 2014 by luviceman 12.05.2014 16:37

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Kimi said the two stop strategy itself was wrong and Nando was consistent and doing quicker laps before 2nd pit stop if my appli showed me correct sector times

anyway, Olga

#63 RE: F1 Spain GP 2014 by Olga 13.05.2014 09:06

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The situation down south: Ferrariís split calls explained

Trust us, you did not want to be in that Ferrari motorhome on Sunday evening. Amid post-race tension regarding the split strategies that saw Raikkonen end up behind Alonso, various reports have surfaced on conspiracy theories, sabotage stories and other types of fiction. We aim to analyze the situation and clarify the myth.


Hereís how the race went down:

Raikkonen was leading Alonso from the get go and was ahead of him until the closing stages of the GP. In the first stint, times were looking similar, but Alonso kept a close gap to his teammate right until the first stop. At this stage both drivers were on a 2-stopper strategy.

Now, hereís where it gets interesting.

By standard intra-team rules, if both drivers are on the same strategy and running a similar pace, the leading driver gets the advantage of pitting first. Like Alonso stated after the race, he switched to a 3-stopper AFTER the second pit stop. So if they were on the same strategy ahead of the first pit stop, itís a bit suspicious that Alonso pitted first even though he was behind Raikkonen.

Sure, there were statements concerning faster tyre deg for Alonso and such. Letís pretend they are true. After the second pit stop for Alonso, Raikkonen stayed out and it became painfully evident he was going to lose out to both the charging Vettel and his teammate since he was more than 2 seconds slower per lap than both of them. Even so, he stayed out for a couple of laps more, which made absolutely zero sense because Alonso closed the gap down to 5 seconds. Herein lies the true problem: why was Raikkonen allowed to stay out for so long when it was crystal clear he was losing a massive amount of time?

So after analyzing the split strategies, we get down to the politics.

Letís make one thing clear: Ferrari DID NOT sabotage Raikkonenís race. They didnít spend weeks of manufacturing tailor-made upgrades for him just to destroy a race where he was finally getting comfortable. They have stated since the beginning of the season that they will help Kimi get more comfortable in the car and based on the amount of upgrades he received so far, they kept true to their word. Itís very rare to follow two different development paths so Ferrari providing Kimi with personalized parts really shows they are eager to get him back to his very best. Sabotaging his race by employing the slower strategy? That makes no sense whatsoever considering the massive support he received from the team so far. Claiming otherwise is just conspiratorial non-sense.

The problem lies on the Finnís side of the garage. Alonso is accustomed to calling the shots at Ferrari and making pro-active decisions, often switching strategies in the middle of the race. Him and Andrea Stella have been together for years and have a tendency to work extremely well both on and off-track.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the garage, Raikkonen works with rookie Antonio Spagnolo. Weíve seen a couple of times during live feeds that they have often had communication issues. In Barcelona, they didnít react to a seemingly obvious situation when Raikkonen just couldnít cope with the tyres in the second stint. They should have realized immediately after Alonso pitted that Kimi, despite being soft on tyres, could not make them last too long without dropping off significantly. They allowed Alonso to close in fast, which cost them 6th place.

Itís simple, really: Alonsoís garage made a tactical switch that benefited him, while Raikkonenís side chose to stick to the original plan when it was obvious it was not the right decision, based on Kimiís times.

Beating Alonso requires a lot more than outright speed (which Kimi had this weekend, by the way). They have to be ready to employ strategic calls mid-race and that requires extensive communication and breaking down some barriers. This is not just Kimi vs. Fernando, itís one garage against the other.

And if the pace difference is always going to be as minimal as it was in Spain, the outcome will be decided by the side of the garage that calls the right shots.



http://pitlanetalk.wordpress.com/2014/05...alls-explained/

#64 RE: F1 Spain GP 2014 by Appletree 13.05.2014 12:04

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Buut...good old Heikki Kulta says like it is: Alonso got home advantage in Spain.
He says Alonso and Stella had already at the beginning the choice of three stopper at their hands, they just waited for the moment to do it , unlike Kimi who did not have that choice offered at all. He says there is clear reason why Kimi snarled at once.
Kulta just said Alonso got the advantage to get two more points from italians.

#65 RE: F1 Spain GP 2014 by luviceman 13.05.2014 13:25

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what happened was just happened, but yeah I read Kimi was confident and sure he would have crossed the finish line ahead of Nando with different strategy

IL wrote "Raikkonen is generally known as friends of calm, but now he could not be quiet because he felt his strategy damaged his race." and even Italian press reported Massa's syndrome...I don't trust Ferrari.

Keep Calm And Support Kimi, Maki! OK

#66 RE: F1 Spain GP 2014 by icemaid 13.05.2014 13:39

Quote: Appletree wrote in post #64
Buut...good old Heikki Kulta says like it is: Alonso got home advantage in Spain.
He says Alonso and Stella had already at the beginning the choice of three stopper at their hands, they just waited for the moment to do it , unlike Kimi who did not have that choice offered at all. He says there is clear reason why Kimi snarled at once.
Kulta just said Alonso got the advantage to get two more points from italians.



In Kulta we trust!
Shit Ferrari/Alonso.

According Chris Balfe (reporter) : Alonso got the better strategy because of the presence of top brass management of Santander at the Spanish GP.

This is making me sick in the stomach!

#67 RE: F1 Spain GP 2014 by WHATEVER 13.05.2014 13:41

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I think Kimi should demand a capable race engineer. Although I doubt he will, because he's not like that. I remember reading once that in McLaren someone in his garage had clearly made the mistake who ruined his win and McLaren was ready to kick him out until Kimi came and said no one in his team should be touched and that everybody makes mistakes.

So my guess is that is most probable Kimi will try to teach Spagnolo how he should do his work rather than look for a replacement. Let's just hope it turns out to be the best choice.

#68 RE: F1 Spain GP 2014 by YiNing 13.05.2014 16:48

I think it's not just one race engineer, the whole Kimi side garage could be the problem.... if we looked at how many times Kimi's car had problem since pre-season testing and Alonso didn't have any problem... it's pretty clear to me they put all the best people around Alonso.

#69 RE: F1 Spain GP 2014 by Olga 13.05.2014 21:39

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Quote: YiNing wrote in post #68
I think it's not just one race engineer, the whole Kimi side garage could be the problem.... if we looked at how many times Kimi's car had problem since pre-season testing and Alonso didn't have any problem... it's pretty clear to me they put all the best people around Alonso.


i agree, probably the most experienced and capable people on the other side of the garage...

#70 RE: F1 Spain GP 2014 by miezicat 14.05.2014 22:37

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#71 RE: F1 Spain GP 2014 by WHATEVER 15.05.2014 14:48

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Miezi

A small summary please? Mi German is still very poor

Thanks to TaniaS:

From Kimi Räikkönen #7 ‏@KimiFanPage

Kimi in Spain: Rob Wilson applauds!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIMPE8VcjVo&sns=tw

#72 RE: F1 Spain GP 2014 by miezicat 15.05.2014 19:23

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here you go first they are just comparing and say that if it doesn't start to work for Kimi soon than Alonso will get away too far. Then Alonso is kind of encouraging Kimi he says that Kimi had complicated start and technical problems and not the confidence in the car but he expects that this will change soon. The team needs his points and we shouldn't worry, Kimi will become strong.
then they say that Kimi doesn't need to hide, he hasn't forgot to drive. because of the car and the new regulations don't fit his driving style and technical problems Kimi couldn't step out of the Alonso's shadow. But this should change now.. Kimi says it should be possible but hard to say. they improved the car, in the last races he didn't have much luck, small problems with big consequences. The important thing is now not to have issues.
Next they talk about Luca who is also defending Kimi, saying that he talked with Kimi, that he is more pleased with the car now and we should give him more time. Kimi is strong and he likes him very much
then it's just about Alonso, that his last win was a year ago, that Ferrari need to improve.. and at the end they say that Alonso fans are in the majority but the Kimi fans are noticable though

Kimi's team radio after the race

#73 RE: F1 Spain GP 2014 by Olga 15.05.2014 19:36

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speak up Kimi!!!!!

#74 RE: F1 Spain GP 2014 by WHATEVER 15.05.2014 20:42

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Miezi

#75 RE: F1 Spain GP 2014 by Jalumi 15.05.2014 20:55

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He sound so calm!
Miezi

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