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Kimi, Ferrari and 2014

The shadow of Kimi is very much haunting the Ferrari camp this weekend. TJ13 sources say, “both drivers have asked Stefano Domenicali about their future at Ferrari, and he has told them both ‘let’s wait and see’“.

Leo Turini wrote a rather coded piece in Milan’s Il Gallo this week that he’s had dinner with Stefano, and he mischievously concluded by revealing they drank Vodka and the eagles were playing in the background, “I can’t tell you why” (1979).

Alonso’s demeanor in the Thursday press conference was remarkable. Gone was the arrogance as he answered question after question – often at length – and continually stumbling as he searched for the right English words in his replies. He appeared nervous, shifting his gaze continually – very unlike the relaxed, even nonchalant, Alonso we saw in Hungary.

It is getting more and more obvious that there is an almost irreparable breach of trust between Alonso and a number of influential figures in the Scuderia, Fernando and Stefano have been avoiding each other at Monza and have not once been seen together.

TJ13 reported that ordinary team members call him names behind his back. Ferrari will have to decide soon, because 3 does not go into 2.

So how will the Ferrari ménage a trios be resolved?

Fernando Alonso – The team has the utmost respect for Fernando as a driver, his work ethics and the results he brings home, but from a human point of view Domenicali is very disappointed in Alonso.

Felipe Massa – For Felipe it is exactly the other way around. He is by far the most loved of the two, but the focus is on Alonso and Felipe’s results are disappointing – although he has sacrificed his own drive testing revolutionary parts for the team in Monaco and Germany.

Kimi Raikkonen – Was ousted by Ferrari to make way for Alonso who Santander were demanding get the drive. Kimi was paid a years salary by Ferrari despite being out of F1. Domenicali has been the one pushing for the team to bring about Kimi’s return and warmed Il Padrino (LdM) to the idea.

It is becoming more difficult to see how Ferrari and Alonso can repair this breach of trust.

So it could yet be that Kimi will not be replacing Massa and Ferrari will know after this weekend – certainly following Singapore – whether Alonso has any chance of winning the title.

TJ13 reported in the daily news that Kimi had signed for Ferrari but insisted on a couple of clauses.

First, Kimi wanted to give Lotus the chance to show their good will and funding, that timeline has now run its course. Secondly, there was some debate over the contract which is for 2 years with a further 1 year option and it was Kimi who wished to control the right to the take up of the 3rd year.

Regardless of the Horse Whisperer’s meanderings earlier in the week, TJ13 believes the cat is out of the bag over Kimi and Ferrari will have to make an announcement soon.

http://thejudge13.com/2013/09/07/daily- ... september/

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Analysis
Experts doubt Raikkonen set for Ferrari return
It's hardly believed by Formula One experts that Kimi Raikkonen is going to re-join Ferrari.


Sep.7 (GMM) Well-known paddock personalities doubt feverish speculation Kimi Raikkonen is on the verge of signing to return to Ferrari next year.

It is rumoured the Finn is now poised to agree the deal, but triple world champion Sir Jackie Stewart said at Monza: "I don't see how the management could be considering having Kimi in the same team as Fernando Alonso.

"For one thing, Alonso would not like it," he added.

Stewart, however, might not be speaking absolutely objectively, as he is a consultant for Lotus team owner Genii.

And Lotus is pushing hard to convince the Finn to stay.

But even former Ferrari driver Rubens Barrichello expresses doubts about the Alonso-Raikkonen lineup.

"It's hard to imagine Ferrari making a change like that, with continuity being so critical," said the Brazilian.

He might be referring to the radical incoming rules for 2014, but Barrichello also insisted Alonso-Raikkonen would be a change in Ferrari's long policy of having a clear 'number 1

"With Alonso and Raikkonen, you wouldn't have that," he told Brazil's O Estado de S.Paulo newspaper.

Another former F1 driver, Luciano Burti, agreed in Monza: "I wouldn't bet on Kimi being at Ferrari with Alonso.

"I see everything depending on what Felipe (Massa) manages to do here and in Singapore. In Formula One, your most recent results count the most," he said.

One candidate linked recently with a possible move to Ferrari next year is Jenson Button, but it appears the Briton is fully committed to McLaren for now.

"Well, he doesn't seem very worried about his future, does he?" team boss Martin Whitmarsh told the Italiaracing publication at Monza.

"He is a great ambassador for us and a great driver. In principle both parties are in agreement and the right time will come for an official announcement," he added.

Button also ruled out moving to Ferrari.

"Ferrari will always be an option for me," the 2009 world champion is quoted by Brazil's Totalrace, "but there have been no serious discussions.

"So there is definitely no chance to go there this time. I believe they will continue with Fernando and Felipe.

"But I did hear an interesting rumour today," said Button. "Someone told me about Fernando going to McLaren.

"I don't know if it will happen -- he didn't exactly leave McLaren in a good way (in 2007)," he added. "But let's wait and see."

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/exper ... ri-return/

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Well apparently Mr. Ecclesstone said that there is no way Kimi is going to Ferrari.

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Oh dear the old man has spoken.
So Kimi is going to reitre?

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Lotus or retirement.

I don't see how he would go to Ferrari. I doubted it before today. FP3 made it more clear to me. In 2012: Massa also was able to get a tow from Fernando. Fast forward to 2013: only Fernando gets a tow. There is no disputing Ferrari clearly has trended toward operating with a clear #1 driver. That case was strengthened today. Ydo
People really expect Ferrari to rescind or soften that policy for a booted out driver (whom was payed by a major source of Ferrari's income) under the same management? None of this adds up to me.

I guess we will wait and see

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If Kimi retires, I blame it on Red Bull for not having the guts to hire him to partner Vettal !

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I dont think he will necessarily retire. Of course Kimi would like the best car out there, who wouldn't? And of course he would like to win more. But he came back to F1 because he missed the racing, he knows what is out there if you are not doing F1. He does sound interested in the rule changes, and we dont know how things will be next year. There could be big changes.
Also Kimi wants to do F1 on his own terms, it is clear he requires certain freedoms, which he atleast seems to be getting at Lotus. This is very important to him, he clearly wants a good atmosphere.